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Post by maia on Jun 25, 2004 13:38:48 GMT -5
Just a quick question for Okibi, Aleandra and anyone else whos pondered about their "Death" (in the companion sense, not the "you dying" sense) after reading the page on Okibis site. While I was reading that particular page and thinking about it ,Mox got really agitated and started flying around the room as a bat (which hes never turned into before) and then changing into his red panda form and pressing himself up against me, and he kept saying "Please don't. Please don't read that! I don't want you to meet him.Please turn it off....". I told him that I was just curious but he was still really agitated , and is getting agitated now at the memory. Ive never seen him like this. I just wanted to know if either of you guys experienced a similar thing or if anyone else has ever had such a strong emotional response from their daemon to something?
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Post by Cat on Jun 25, 2004 13:51:08 GMT -5
Hey, I'm new here ^^. But my dæmon does react a little strangely to the whole Death thing. However, he reacts not with agitation, but with an almost anger ... He doesn't like me considering having a conversation with my Death, and he gets downright furious just thinking that after death, my Death will be my "loving companion". So when reading the Death page on Okibi's site, he'll scoff and say something like, "Why bother? Your Death doesn't care about you or he'd talk to you more." But I find that's not true. I have held conversations with my Death, and he is a sweet, loveable guy who does care about me.
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Post by Okibi on Jun 25, 2004 14:04:00 GMT -5
Our dæmon is our companion for life. They love us dearly, so of course they don't want to think or even SEE the one who's supposed to take us when we die. Who wants to think of a loved one dying? In every case I know, the dæmon gets agitated at the thought/sight of their human's death. But like the dæmon, deaths are kind and can be useful to their human. They don't mean us any harm, really.
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Post by Cat on Jun 25, 2004 14:13:04 GMT -5
I've got a question ... Are Deaths ALWAYS just the way Pullman has described, or are they unique and all different like dæmons? I'm almost certain my Death - Sylvester - is animal-formed, and my friend believes her Death is a tiger. Truthfully, I couldn't see Syl any other way than the way I see him - a white wolf-dog hybrid. Is it possible that he DOES really look like Pullman's Deaths, and my mind's eye just sees him in a way I can relate to better?
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Post by Okibi on Jun 25, 2004 14:21:50 GMT -5
I don't know. I'm pretty sure that all deaths are supposed to be human-shaped, but here they are not physical, so I can't tell you his white dog form "isn't real." If that's how you want to envision him, and he doesn't mind, then there's nothing wrong with it... He's still your death.
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Riakar
rising dæmian
D?mon: Not Pocket! Ky: -smack- Me: I mean... D?mon: Kyoldie
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Post by Riakar on Jun 25, 2004 15:27:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I've never seen Damm as a person type thing, always as this huge silver-white tiger. He doesn't talk much.
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Post by Aleandra on Jun 25, 2004 21:36:32 GMT -5
hum..well like i said in my Death's description, Kayrahn doesn't like him, and i don't see It very often. But when i do, it's only as if to remind me that suicide is stupid. Kayrahn knows that, and he knows my Death won;t stay, so he doesn't panic but I know it makes him nervous, even if he never shows it. My Daemon and Death seem so...mature and wise. Weird.
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Post by maia and mox on Jun 26, 2004 4:31:24 GMT -5
(Sorry I forgot to log in!) Ive never seen my Death properly. Im curious about him though. Since I was really small I can remember just seeing a figure near me out of the corner of my eye, which dissapeared as soon as I turned my head. (Im sure that losds of you guys have had this). When I read about Deaths, I just assumed that this was mine.
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Post by Aleandra on Jun 26, 2004 7:06:26 GMT -5
OMG! Thank you maia and mox!!!! I had seen a white figure once, out of the corner of my eye, crossing the street even though there was lots of fast traffic, who could have been run over, but who dissapeared before i could get a good look. And for the whole day i had feld the presence. It scared the hell out of me (mainly because i had seen the "Ring" or "ju-on" just before) and Now i realise that it could have been my death...but it's a theory.
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Post by maia on Jun 26, 2004 7:16:06 GMT -5
I haven't seen ju-on, but the picture I saw from it showed a figure under bed covers and SCARED THE BEEJESUS OUT OF ME!! The figure I see can't really be descibed. When Ive turned to look at them and they've dissapeard, its kind of like trying to remember a dream. I can remember a vague idea of what the figure looked like, but the details dissapear in my memory like smoke. How did Kayrahn (is that his name?) react to that incident Aleandra?
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Post by Aleandra on Jun 26, 2004 7:28:27 GMT -5
Wow you know about Ju-on! I though Japanese horror films were lost on Europeans and Amerians...lol. And it's a shame too cuz they're the BEST! (Yeah the part where it's in the bed covers scared me too -there's no protection under the bed covers anymore!!!!- ...and when i saw it, with a friend, there was a black out at the exact moment it was begining to be scary! lol! I recomend it to all amateurs of horror movies!!! ok no more spam)
hum, i didn't know Kayrahn (yes it's his name, but only a temporary one) at that time...but i had this sense of awfull dread for the whole time...maybe it was him, afraid that now my death was here, he would come and take me away, and maybe he was dreading the moment, waiting for it, and afraid of it, but brave enough not to let the fear take over...awww *just had to hug Kayrahn*
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TaintedDaemon
rising dæmian
Credit for my icon goes to poisonivory from Livejournal...
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Post by TaintedDaemon on Jun 28, 2004 0:36:05 GMT -5
I remember reading that page...I didn't know Erasmus at the time, but now that I look back at it I remember him being agitated. He wasn't going hysterical or anything, he was more silently unsettled and fidgety/panicky...
As for my death himself, I haven't seen him yet, least not that I know of. Me and Erasmus are still getting to know each other, and are actually going through some rough times so I don't think I'm going to be seeing him soon either. I have experienced seeing someone/thing out of the corner of my eye quite often, but I don't think it was ever my Death cuz I didn't really feel any strong presence...
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Post by Cat on Jun 29, 2004 9:47:20 GMT -5
I believe it was my Death who came to me through the imaginary friend route. I used to have a stronger connection with him. Then Pocket came along and for about two days I could talk to both of them, though I noticed that they seemed wildly jealous of each other. Then Sylvester just seemed to ... fade away. When I asked him why he stopped talking to me, he replied sadly, "Because Pocket's here now." So Sylvester never really talks anymore. Just a brief word, or a growl, whenever Pocket says something regarding him. So I suppose it's not the easiest thing getting your Death to hold a conversation with you and, speaking from past experience, your dæmon will probably try to stop you from doing just that. But if you can get your Death to talk to you, they are friendly, caring creatures, and differ from the dæmons in several obvious ways.
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Post by Joshua on Jul 1, 2004 3:52:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I've had the experience of seeing a faint shape out of the corner of my eye, and a faint presence. Maybe I'll actually try conversation with this entity, although I can't think why that would be necessary.
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Post by Zed Panaka on Jul 3, 2004 15:04:34 GMT -5
Hi there, I'm another lurker I just wanted to chip in and say that my dæmon had a strong reaction to my Death to start with. He was extremely jealous and possessive of me, and would often make nasty remarks for no reason whatsoever. He doesn't like me taking to Lethe (my Death). I think Lethe knew that sadly, he would always take a back seat to Panaka. I saw Lethe for about three weeks.. now we hardly ever talk. Panaka is just sort of icily cold to him, and I have great difficulty actually trying to see Lethe in the first place because he seems so unwilling to let me see him now... Deaths may seem melancholy and gloomy but they are really very kindly and caring, as Cat said.
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