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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 14:15:41 GMT -5
Post by Kaye&Lanh on Mar 19, 2005 14:15:41 GMT -5
In the Harry Potter books, there are certain wizards who canchange into animals. These are Animagi. What form the take reflects upon their personality. This makes alot of sense. Pettegrew is a rat, and James is a Stag, and Sirius is a dog. Anyone else notice this?
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 14:16:53 GMT -5
Post by StephXZed on Mar 19, 2005 14:16:53 GMT -5
I have. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it, really. Although, perhaps there are flaws in this, because I get the feeling that Harry isn't a stag.
EDIT: Oh wait, that's patronus. Sorry.
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 14:33:28 GMT -5
Post by |3200k1 on Mar 19, 2005 14:33:28 GMT -5
I've thought about it before and completely agree. Which is funny,because I'm a black jackal (dog,i suppose. XP) and my best friend is a siler stag. XD My boyfriends a wolf though,so was there some yaoi between lupin and sirius....lol. No! And do you know WHY?! SIRIUS IS MINE! *glomps plushie*
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Hunter
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Daemon:Rester. An ermine, if you hadn't noticed
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 14:58:28 GMT -5
Post by Hunter on Mar 19, 2005 14:58:28 GMT -5
I don't think that James Potter is a stag, because my best friend's daemon is a stag, and she is not like him at all! but I'm maybe wrong...
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 16:07:15 GMT -5
Post by |3200k1 on Mar 19, 2005 16:07:15 GMT -5
*shrug* Iono. My friend is in denial about being a stag. =_=; However, wouldn't that make James' daemon a guy? Maybe it was a ode...*shrug* Either way,my friends is a female stag,so i guess I can't say or think much.
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 17:02:12 GMT -5
Post by StephXZed on Mar 19, 2005 17:02:12 GMT -5
Well, stags represent pridefulness, so maybe James' daemon would have been a stag after all. And Sirius was loyal, and kind of fierce, so he's a black bear-dog. And Peter is a rat- enough explained. McGonagall is clever (the cat)... so I think it would work after all.
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 17:06:50 GMT -5
Post by rave & phair on Mar 19, 2005 17:06:50 GMT -5
daemons.envy.nu/other.html James doesn't sound like a stag. Timid? Low self-esteem? Hm. EDIT: Wait.. doesn't that mean James's dæmon would be male? Pettigrew, Sirius, Lupin, and Rita Skeeter work with it, though. What about McGonagall the cat?
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 17:14:04 GMT -5
Post by StephXZed on Mar 19, 2005 17:14:04 GMT -5
Eh, well, my idea of stags were always of prideful creatures. Aesop's fables did that ta me.
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 21:14:54 GMT -5
Post by |3200k1 on Mar 19, 2005 21:14:54 GMT -5
Yeah,my friend,being a leo,is much more prideful than timid or shy. That's why I was confused. I didn't know if her daemon jsut wasn't settled or what....she saw her w/o knowing anything of daemons,though...it was odd. Either way,the analysis doesn't fit. *feels the need to look up aesops fables now*
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 21:56:10 GMT -5
Post by Tatl & Valian on Mar 19, 2005 21:56:10 GMT -5
so was there some yaoi between lupin and sirius.... Oh god, I really needed that mental picture. XD
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Cho
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don't know anymore....
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 22:26:33 GMT -5
Post by Cho on Mar 19, 2005 22:26:33 GMT -5
In the book, James Potter's animal form was a stag. About him not fitting that description, have you ever though that male stags are different? I'm not sure, but I'm almost positive that male stags are competitive with other stags for females and the like. Maybe it's supposed to be a representation of how stags are in relation to other stags and not how they are with people? I'm just brainstorming... Wow, it feels good to post again. Sorry I've been away for so long, but I've just got so much homework to do all the time. I really have been trying to get online and post as much as I possibly could. And to all those that have joined the forum in my absence, sincere apologies for not welcoming you. Enjoy your stay here in the daemon forum!
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Dan
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Does this form bear finality?
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Animagi
Mar 19, 2005 22:34:56 GMT -5
Post by Dan on Mar 19, 2005 22:34:56 GMT -5
Yaaaay!!! Cho's back, its been a few months, I thought that you had been banned again because ghost returned (Then again her friends are gone, and she isn't so bad anymore) But anyway, WELCOME BACK! But, I just can't see a stag being timid normally, after all, the way an animal behaves around humans is irrelevant, especially when deer and deer like creatures are hunted, they have a good reason to be afraid of us <Irrelevancies> Oh, and about that lupin/sirius thing-- lupin isn't an animagus, hes a WEREWOLF, he turns into a wolf because another werewolf bit him, not because that is the form of his soul....... So please, don't make us think about that again
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Animagi
Mar 20, 2005 2:47:11 GMT -5
Post by Key & Nax on Mar 20, 2005 2:47:11 GMT -5
Yeah, ever since I've known about dæmons I associated your Animagi form with the one that your soul would take. I think there's quite a lot of symbollism with James's stag shape - stags are commonly embelems of nobility and pride, and one of the things that James definitely shows (despite being a jerk in the Pensieve scene) is that he is noble. He shows the bad side of pride, i.e arrogance/conceit in the Pensieve scene, but pride can also be more about a sense of self-worth and bravery. Don't stags also fight to protect their herd, or fawns? James faced death "Straight-backed and proud". He sacrificed himself to give Lily time to run for it. While there's a lot more to dogs than just their loyalty, it makes sense for Sirius, whose definitive trait is his loyalty, to be one. He can get headstrong and reckless but if someone he respects really puts their foot down (e.g Lupin à la "Sit down, Siruis.") he'll listen to 'em. He needs to be able to protect and guard those he loves, and the thought of Harry in danger while he couldn't do anything about it was driving him mental. And the whole thing about being trapped back inside Grimmauld Place - if you keep a large dog with a lot of pent-up energy and frustration inside, it howls, barks, destroys the furniture... Lupin's harder to figure out since he's forced to transform into what he called a fully-fledged monster every month, instead of being an Animagus. I would say that he seems to have something of a canine personality, but that's just me. Hmm... any ideas what his dæmon would be? Let's see: Rational, kind, quiet, all around nice guy, his main failing is wanting to be liked and therefore cutting his friends a lot of slack when he shouldn't and not telling Dumbledore about the Animagi, intuitive, compassionate, emotionally sensitive towards others (definitely NOT emotionally delicate) able to interpret other people's feelings, fades into the background effectively, gentle, tolerant towards young children, good teacher, probably quite adaptable, may look weak but has shown extreme resilience in the past. What do you guys think? ETA: Hiya, Cho! Welcome back
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Animagi
Mar 20, 2005 18:20:51 GMT -5
Post by J and Captiosus on Mar 20, 2005 18:20:51 GMT -5
Lupin sounds like a wolf, with reference to the analysis on Okibi's site, but that would be to easy...a dove, perhaps? And her name would be Yukos. I made a thread about that on the Werewolf Registry.
I was arguing with a friend about whether a werewolf would have a daemon or not. She said a werewolf is not a human so he wouldn't. I said that first of all, it's illogical to merge two fantasy words and, second of all, he would only lack a daemon while he was a werewolf if he lacked one at all.
I agree: James does not sound like a stag.
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Animagi
Mar 20, 2005 18:36:03 GMT -5
Post by Okibi on Mar 20, 2005 18:36:03 GMT -5
I know that the majority of my analyses are accurate, but that stag analysis is old, and one that was done poorly. I don't know who James is, but I know that you shouldn't concern yourselves too much with my stag analysis when deciding his dæmon. I think mine is more of a doe analysis than anything. o.o I agree with Amé that stags symbolize pride more than a skittish nature. I should probably redo it when I have the time...
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