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Post by Matt and Areus on May 2, 2005 22:13:54 GMT -5
I myself don't beleive in reincarnation, although I do beleive in an afterlife, but wei were thinking about it, and well what if when dæmons and humans die they trade dominance. Meaning dæmon becomes human and vice versa, when and if they reincarnate. Just a thought wei'd like to share with anyone who does beleive in reincarnation.
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Post by Matt and Areus on May 2, 2005 22:36:15 GMT -5
Maybe I didn't explain that well. Since when were you good at explaining anything? What I meant to say was since all a dæmon is, is soul (that's why they disappear when you die) what if when you reincarnate you both get a chance to be human. meaning if reincarnation were real I was Arenia's dæmon once and I will be again once I die. I don't know if I can explain it any clearer than that so... Bye!
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Post by Kiba on May 3, 2005 6:12:40 GMT -5
You know I found that part odd about the books if your deamon is your soul then why isn't it the one in the world of the dead and not your ghost?
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Post by KK on May 3, 2005 6:51:34 GMT -5
I personally believe the alternate universe theory, and I also think that just about any universe exists, even tv show universes and stuff like that. I mean, there's probably a universe where sea creatures became super intelligent and started living in pineapples. I think you stay the human, and your daemon stays the daemon, but you switch universes every time you die.
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Post by Matt and Areus on May 3, 2005 7:57:21 GMT -5
It was just a thought. But I beleive you about the cartoon thing. I mean if parallel are as people say they are then the chances of a world being exactly like a cartoon is beyond a hundred percent.
In my own little peace of fiction I have dimensions created by thought rather than what socks you wore and the thousands of possibility's contained therin. So let's say that because Phillup Pullman thought of His Dark Materials, somewhere it all happened. It doesn't make Phillup Pullman god of those worlds, but simply the imaginee of the place. When and if I write the book it will be more detailed and easier to understand what I mean.
But like wei said before it's only a peice of fiction, like the thread, it's just fun to think about it. You know if we dæmons wanted to be human we would just have to wait our turn.
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Post by cock of teh walk on May 3, 2005 11:17:40 GMT -5
Well, actually you two are connected now so really youd have to go to a world where you were seperate twice in order to shift wouldnt you
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Post by KK on May 3, 2005 15:43:20 GMT -5
Yes, Lyra's world must exist somewhere, created by thought. I also think that when you experience deja vu, it's because you've lived in another world with a place that's the exact same.
I personally hope that when I die, I'll get sent to the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends world, where your imaginary friends become physical if you think hard enough. The Avatar: The Last Airbender world would be cool too.
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Post by Annie on May 3, 2005 15:53:10 GMT -5
Facinating. I've always thought that the imagination was strong enough to create reality. I often wondered if perhaps with every new idea (like cartoons, fiction books, and the like) created a new world. Say, our dead RPG. Imagine that because we made that up, it really happened somewhere. It seems like the butterfly effect. How one tiny thing can cause something huge somewhere else. Like a tiny wave in the ocean could become a tsunami on the land. One simple thought could create worlds. Imagine if our world was one that was created by another. Maybe whoever made us up is God. Makes you think, doesn't it?
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Post by Matt and Areus on May 3, 2005 16:35:07 GMT -5
Well in my "book" what the big question is how are the worlds created? And the big suprise is the worlds are created by a world of evil "Gods", who can easily manipulate space time to create a universe, so they use our ideas to create sub-universes where they harvest the psionic energy from those worlds. The "Gods" are really people with technology so insanely advance they might as well be Gods. But after the sages (the good guys) eliminate their something... I haven't really decided what. The thought dimensions still keep coming, so the sages wonder if that's the way it always was.
So I think that's the general direction of the maybe book is gonna go.
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Post by Tyrannus et Callida on May 3, 2005 18:33:19 GMT -5
*points at Hannah*
Blasphemist!!!!!
I've always held the belief that imagination creates reality.
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Post by t o n i + r i n t o on May 4, 2005 13:57:54 GMT -5
The whole "imagination creates reality" idea is very interesting. It would rule so much if it were true. I'd love to be reborn in Harry Potters world or something. I love the sound of magic and stuff, sounds way more fun than maths, or chemistry.
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Post by Darkshadow on May 4, 2005 14:06:43 GMT -5
I think that the butterfly effect is very important. If Adolf Hitler hadn't been born, then :-
He would never have started WW2...
...WW2 would never have happened...
...Men in Britain wouldn't have been called away form their jobs to fight...
...Women in Britain would have had no opportunity to show their skill in jobs...
...Women would not have been given better job opportunities and pay in Britain, and therefore some countries in Europe wouldn't have followed its example like it did...
...There would still be huge inequality in the world today over women's status.
See the consequences of a single man being born? It changed the future of half of the entire human race.
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Post by Alexei & Kryii on May 4, 2005 18:57:50 GMT -5
Many peoples--most notably the Australian Aboriginies-- believe that at some point, the entire world was dreamed into being, and this world is not the real one, but... only a dream...
And I have considered something like your Hitler thing before. True, the man is responsible for things like the holocaust--deplorable and truely sickening to any civiliazed mind-- yet...
What of all of the the good, important things that have come from it? UN Declaration of Human Rights, as you said, DS, women's rights, a Jewish Homeland (Okay, debatable, but...), A free India (with what many see as the strongest Democracy in the world, by any measure shaming the US, Britain, even Canada), movements towards Civil Rights in the US, in South Africa (with a nod towards Ice, ^^), and more.
Sometimes, only the most horrible, disgusting eents can prompt real changes, real, unfortunate as it may sound, hope for the future.
If you could save 40,000 people in Peru from an Earthquake, 200 people at the local airport from an airplane crash, or 1 person you know (enemy, friend, anyone you know... you chose) from a car crash-- which would you save? Why?
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Post by Matt and Areus on May 4, 2005 21:02:21 GMT -5
Easy, I would make a cure (hypotheticly) for the black plague and see what would happen. I mean think if all those people hadn't died. What would our technology, history, population, and overall way of life be like? Think how the whole world (almost) would drasticly change.Would there have been a peasant revolution, and the vision of democracy been created much earlier? Or would there just be another mass slaughter to shame human kind's past? Who can tell? But if I could, I would find out.
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Post by Annie on May 5, 2005 14:15:48 GMT -5
I imagine that the further back in time you went to change something, it would sortof be like an exponential. Like, going back one year would effect us ten times less than going back ten years. Or something to that effect.
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