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Post by papaslides on Mar 9, 2005 3:56:42 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm new here, and new to the idea of having a Daemon... I've spent time studying various spiritual (mostly pagan) religiouns and have always been aware multiple 'selves'. This idea is so common that almost any idea involving the soul can be linked to this (in this case a Daemon is essentially the same idea as Freud's Higher Self... i think).
Anyways I was curious how other people first met their Daemon, I can't seem to recognize mine. I know she's there, she must be, how can I exist without a soul. But I cannot open my eyes enough to see, nor quiet my mind enough to hear... what do i do??
p.s. I'm sure this has been written 900million times, but please humor me
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Post by Tatl & Valian on Mar 9, 2005 6:56:36 GMT -5
Hi and welcome to the forums! ^_^
Well, the first thing you need to remember is that you talked to your daemon a lot before you even knew her. Whenever you talk to yourself, in your head, you're really talking to your daemon. Visualizing is a little harder, the best thing to do, is pick a form that you like, or feels right, and go from there. Odds are, if it doesn't fit, your daemon will change. It WIIL take a while, I've known Val for over two weeks and I'm still struggling with talking and visualizing. Just keep at it, and it will come naturally.
Hope this helped, sry if it didn't make any sense. ^_^'
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Post by Kaye&Lanh on Mar 9, 2005 8:18:55 GMT -5
welcome and all that jazz. Viualizing was easy for me (over active immagination). To start with visualizing, just picture seomthing easy, a favorite animal. Then talk out loud to this animal. That's how I started
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Post by cock of teh walk on Mar 9, 2005 9:36:26 GMT -5
well souls are a pretty deep concept . maybe youll only see her when you need to. you know...sortof like how some people only pray to god/ believe in him when they need his help. it should come naturally..if it doesnt...id say your trying too hard.
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Post by |3200k1 on Mar 9, 2005 12:56:45 GMT -5
Uhmm....yeah. Welcome? ; I can't helkp you with the seeings cause I don't really remember, but...yeah....>>; I'm pgan and I guess Nymmi is too...I'm done. ; *is sick*
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Post by KK on Mar 9, 2005 19:41:03 GMT -5
With seeing your daemon, it's just kind of knowing where they are and projecting them. Just kind of think about where your daemon might be, and your first guess is probably correct. Just envision your favorite animal there, and start talking to them. It gets much easier after a while.
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Post by Key & Nax on Mar 10, 2005 17:00:24 GMT -5
Hi Sometimes we can overcomplicate seeing our dæmons, I know I did when I first met mine. I kept on worrying about whether I was doing the right thing or not and in the end all I had to do was relax. I second what the others have said: Imagining an animal beside you helps to sort of concentrate your thoughts, and talking to your dæmon is exactly like talking to yourself. In fact, it IS talking to yourself, technically, but... y'know. Starting to answer back to the voice in the back of your head that everyone has is a good start. It's usually awkward at first, but you just have to keep trying and it does get a lot easier, promise! Hope that we can help you out some!
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Post by cock of teh walk on Mar 10, 2005 17:10:26 GMT -5
no no, i disagree. its your soul! it should never be 'awkward' or ' hard to do' . you shouldnt have to work at it .
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Post by papaslides on Mar 10, 2005 20:37:41 GMT -5
Yah I agree that it shoudl be easy, it just isn't for me... i have a hard time discerning what i am saying and what I am hearing within my inner dialogue... cus it doesn't feel like i'm talking to "myself" rather that i'm really just talking to myself (does that make any sense?)
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Post by SNL_Ali on Mar 10, 2005 23:57:14 GMT -5
Yes, it makes sense. I don't want to be a broken jukebox along with everyone else ("Imagine imagine imagine! IMAGINE DARNIT"), so I guess my input will be that frankly, as a person who's known their daemon for almost a year, the thoughts kind of blend together. Ya aint talking to yourself. If you are talking to yourself, how the heck are you answering yourself? You can go out and talk to a tree, but it won't answer back. Say 'hello' in your head, and wait for an answer. It feels stupid in the beginning, but you wouldn't have asked how to speak with your daemon if you didn't know hei/shei wasn't there. If speaking in words doesn't help, clear your mind and try and discern any sorts of pictures or messages that 'pop up' in your brain. Thats how wei commuynicate sometimes when words are tricky--its a lot easier to discern and understand sometimes. It IS hard to discern what theiyr'e saying. But keep chatting anyways. It passes the time, lets you get to know yourself, and hey, no one has to know what goes on in your head. Give it some time--Rome wasn't built in a day. You'll get to identifying him/her eventually.
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Post by Alexei & Kryii on Mar 12, 2005 21:49:43 GMT -5
no no, i disagree. its your soul! it should never be 'awkward' or ' hard to do' . you shouldnt have to work at it . The thing is, it is akward at first, anyway. I felt silly talking to myself and letting answers develop by themselves. I always worried it would be wrong or something of the sort-- a conscience reply by myself, defeating the purpose. But I realized quickly that if I did it, that little voice seemed to get mad at me. "I didn't say that!" was the feeling. There are times I still do it, on accident, I'll answer for Kryii and then get yelled at. So it has a self-check in there, at least for me. I jsut had to leanr to trust that, and then listen after it went off for the REAL reply. Does that help?
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Post by papaslides on Mar 15, 2005 4:25:02 GMT -5
Well yeah of course it's gonna be awkward (now that i've thought about it) I mean we are all brought up to think that "having an imaginary friend" after turning like 9 is abnormal... so the idea that something so similar to an imaginary friend were real is hard to accept, even subconciously... then to allow this new pressence talk... without putting words in his/her mouth is nearly impossible to grasp at first. I still can't tell whether I'm the one talking or if it's my Daemon, because I can't really tell our voices apart very well... sometimes I just kind of accept the fact that I couldn't have made up the response :-D... for example I was looking up names for my Daemon, who i've determined is a wolf , (i found that researching Totems (what i consider to just another cultures version of a daemon) really helped there) I came across a fairly simple yet elegent name... Tala, it's a female indian name meaning "wolf" (very simple), but it seems that my Daemon doesn't like the name, I keep telling her to help me come up with something better, and i think she's still deciding whether to actually think about it or learn to like it because it almost feels like recently she's been responding when i think the name Tala, but it could all be imagined... I've always talked to myself in my head, so it's hard to figure out what's me and what's her
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Post by Tyrannus et Callida on Mar 15, 2005 19:10:30 GMT -5
Yeah, it's like that sometimes. But, eventually you'll just know it's her. Maybe you should try to force it a bit. Not too much, but just a bit. It worked for me.
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Post by SNL_Ali on Mar 15, 2005 20:59:05 GMT -5
Don't forget to check out the stats on a wolf analyses on Okibi's site! Those are always real helpful. And sometimes just making up a name is easiest--thats what wei did.
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Post by Dan on Mar 15, 2005 22:01:45 GMT -5
Hey, arn't you someone on BTTS? I saw something about the fanmovie there.
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