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Post by Okibi on Dec 8, 2004 19:34:34 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessary to ramble on about this.. Pretty straight forward, eh? I just want to note that if you all vote in favor of No, I reserve the right to delete individual posts which I find to be too explicit or offensive. I think that's fair. Anyway, I'd like to get a large number to vote before making any decisions, so.... vote! =)
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Post by Okibi on Dec 12, 2004 15:48:15 GMT -5
Voting will be locked on December 22nd, so if you plan to vote, please do so before then!
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Post by Aleandra on Dec 21, 2004 9:57:48 GMT -5
Hey guys! It's been ages hasn't it?
Well just wanted to add my two cent's worth. I did vote "yes" even though I am a huge fan of freedom of expression. Of course I'm not saying you're all innocent and blablablablaaa but that people have different views on what's explicit or offensive. I have an open mind (that surprises most) but on the net, it's just better to keep the explicit stuff in the 18+ part with a warning. Okibi was right in locking the masturbation thread for the fact that this is a family friendly site: there was no warning so anyone could have just said or done anything. And although yes it's better for kids to know about these things, it can scar some and Okibi's site would have been shut down. And we don't want that do we?
All i'm saying is that there should at least be a warning.
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Post by Ed on Dec 21, 2004 10:30:41 GMT -5
There was a warning, it was in the subject. it clearly said 'masturbation'. So anyone who wasn't interested could clearly avoid it. How can you claim to be open minded but then shoot something down the second you see it and label it explicit?If you really were open minded you would've taken a second to think about it and realize that it might be okay. Kids should learn that not everything is a sin, and that its ok to talk about things like that. Although, that said, how many children do you know on the dæmon forum? Lastly, sexuality and spirituality are very connected.
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Post by Aleandra on Dec 21, 2004 11:01:39 GMT -5
First I am open minded in the fact that i do not shoot you down on sight. Your tone is quite insolent and i'm surprised you still have decent conversations. Putting words in my mouth won't make you win the argument.
Did i shoot your thread down, shouting EXPLICIT CONTENT: DELETE? She locked it. You could read it, but not talk about your personal experiences, which was the warning I was talking about. It shoud have had guidelines like: "no elaborate explanations on your experiances" There is a website for that kind of thing, that i would greatly recommend had they not shut it down. It talked freely of all sexuality. If sexual liberation is what you're looking for go here: http//www.allaboutsex.org not in the Daemon thread which is for DAEMONS.
Yes children should learn about it. But then you can't make all parents change their mind or make centuries of submission to these unwriten laws dissapear just by posting a masturbation thread. Nor by proclaiming yourself to be the liberator of morals. There are cases of scaring I can assure you. Did I say i was against all these things and thought that this was the devils' work? please Muse, read other people's posts mosre carefully next time, instead of jumping to conclusions on their beleifs.
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Post by StephXZed on Dec 21, 2004 19:22:31 GMT -5
Let's please not start another World War. Let's just bury the damn thing and all get over it. It's childish.
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Post by Annie on Dec 21, 2004 21:38:00 GMT -5
*gasps* Yes, bury WW3. ;D *grabs shovel*
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Post by Aleandra on Dec 21, 2004 22:18:19 GMT -5
*shrug* Yeah I started it. You get childish at 1 am.
I actualy don't give a damn about the misconceptions she could have of me, of about her crude, unrefined and not fully thought out arguments. We're basicaly thinking the same things but shooting each other down because of little deviations on warnings.
The fact is that this is Okibi's site, and she does whatever she wants. She could expell us all and it would still be her right. Do you go into people's houses and demand that they open the windows for you? No cuz its their house.
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Post by Annie on Dec 21, 2004 23:21:13 GMT -5
I am unable to stay up till 1 am without proper caffene levels. Usually I'm asleep before 10.
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