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Post by Tyrannus et Callida on May 12, 2005 17:41:44 GMT -5
I would just keep at it. To me it's not tedious to do it. Remember, having to make an account every time you want to post is much more difficult and tedious than deleting one every time you log on.
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Kleo and sabz
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Post by Kleo and sabz on May 12, 2005 17:55:21 GMT -5
True but Okibi shouldn't have to shoulder all the blame she is working her ass off to make a new and better forum that is ghost free ;D
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Post by Kate and Kael on May 12, 2005 18:10:23 GMT -5
To Vicky: I am not capable of ignoring anyone annoying or otherwise insulting. Some people can, but I can't. It's not within my mental capacity. >.>; Some of the people on this forum matter to me a great deal, and when someone like Ghost comes along, I have a desire to crush them. Especially when they bother me or mine.
Ryll and Tal: Sometimes, when people have problems, I feel there must be a certain level of tolerance. There's a retarded boy in one of my classes, and he's very confrontational. But he's also not that aware of what's going on around him. He has no sense of consequence, so when the people in that class harass him, I come immediately to his defence. He also listens to me like me might a mother, so if I tell him to behave, he will. However, I had a class a year back with a boy very much the same, but he knew exactly what kind of trouble he caused and he was aware of what he was doing. He enjoyed chaos and trying to mess with others, convinced a teacher would save him. Such is the case with Ghost. She's perfectly aware of what she's doing, so her 'problems' are no excuse. And nobody here should have to suffer through what she puts us through, and we shouldn't have to suck up to her to get her to be polite.
TU: I understand the difficulty Okibi has gone through trying to rid the forum of Ghost, but understand that she has a life to lead, too. She can't spend every waking hour getting rid of her, not in the limited time and energy she has. Ghost got out of hand, Okibi saw that, and she dealt with it. That's all she can do, and she has a lot on her plate. Okibi's a very busy person. So don't be angry with her, she's trying. And she has a brand new forum she's working on for everybody, which may help some of the problems.
Hannah: Thank you, very much. What you said was very kind and elegantly put. I appreciate it..very much so.
Kleo: Thank you, as well. We haven't met or spoken, but I appreciate all of the nice things you said. I agree with you. We can't blame Okibi; she's already done so much for everybody, creating this little community. And maintaining it so well for so long. We can't change the past...maybe there might have been another community eventually, maybe not, but I still appreciate all that Kibs has done, and I won't try to say that she hasn't tried hard enough. She's done more than her share, and everybody would do well to keep that in mind.
~Kate and Kael
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Kleo and sabz
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kleo is the angel of the angels and the soul of my soul praise to klythradrex my gardian angel
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Post by Kleo and sabz on May 12, 2005 19:05:55 GMT -5
Kleo: Thank you, as well. We haven't met or spoken, but I appreciate all of the nice things you said. I agree with you. We can't blame Okibi; she's already done so much for everybody, creating this little community. And maintaining it so well for so long. We can't change the past...maybe there might have been another community eventually, maybe not, but I still appreciate all that Kibs has done, and I won't try to say that she hasn't tried hard enough. She's done more than her share, and everybody would do well to keep that in mind. ~Kate and Kael kate your ever so welcome and just know that i would do this for anyone who doesn't deserve to be publiclly huliliated. espeacially by ghost with her trade mark nasty polls. i'm glad we can keep in touch and i only wait for the day when okibi's hard labour pays off and we have a better new immproved and ghost free site/forum. so thankyou kate for your acnoledgement and also thankyou Okibi for all your hard work in creating this forum and not letting it suck royaly like mine and i know we all thankya for working so hard on the new forum. ;D kleo- yo Okibi ya rawk and peace out yall yo rookie waszup dog or should i say jackal
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Post by Cat on May 12, 2005 19:08:58 GMT -5
kleo- yo Okibi ya rawk and peace out yall yo rookie waszup dog or should i say jackal Rookie's a coyote. =P
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Post by Tatl & Valian on May 12, 2005 19:58:45 GMT -5
Meh...even though I haven't done anything incredibly bad, I kinda feel the need to apoligize. I don't like Ghost, I have never liked Ghost, and I will never like Ghost, but I did kinda blow up at her, and am probably partly to blame for all this big forum drama. Partly the reason I was so upset at the poll was because how everyone was playing along with it, and nobody was standing up for poor Kate. Even though she may have come off a little too heated, and probably shouldn't have sworn as much, I can see exactly how she felt. We ought to just put the whole thing behind us. Kate, please come back, there's no more Ghost now.
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Leah
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Post by Leah on May 12, 2005 20:00:10 GMT -5
eh.. I guess I worded it wrong. I wasn't trying to excuse ghost, I just didn't like the term "suicidal freak". I found out today that one of my best friends tried to end her life again, and is now back in a clinic. Messed up, insane, crazy, suicidal, etc, I don't like.
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Post by Annie on May 13, 2005 14:01:39 GMT -5
Maybe the new forums will be like a new start. So, when we join, pretend that you've never had any issues with anyone before, and engage the person in pleasent conversation maybe. I've done that before. I really disliked someone, but we started over and pretended that we never said anything mean to each other, and we got along great after that. I think it all depends on a first impression. If Ghost had come and been semi-normal like she has been for a while, then we would accept her more, I think. But she started out insulting and degrading the members, so we are automatically on guard. Do I make sense?
But that's me. Giving people advice that they may not want. So, take it or leave it. Or modify it to make sense. Whatever. I just like to put my bit in when I feel it can be useful.
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Post by Tatl & Valian on May 13, 2005 16:39:34 GMT -5
*nods* Very good advice, Hannah. Everybody, we're on a clean slate, make your first impressions NOW. Or in the new forum. whatev.
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Post by desperategoth on May 16, 2005 13:11:35 GMT -5
things like this make me wonder what would happen if we all met in person. Would there be a...rumble? If so, who would throw the first punch? Would everyone just yell alot or would we all mutually pretend nothing bad ever happened and everything would be just peachy?
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Post by |3200k1 on May 16, 2005 15:09:27 GMT -5
well there'd have to be a pause while we read each others name tags. then, when we'd worked out who was on who's side, maybe there'd be a puch-up. i am late on this, i know but i have to things to say: 1. ghost was out of line for saying all that stuff about kate BUT it could have been much worse. I have to say that if she'd done that to me i would probably have found it funny, but then everyones different 2. new site where we can in theory ban people properly, so come back kate and lets forget... I still don't think ghost should be banned. If Kate was warning people of her temper,then everyone should already know that ghost has a temper-but it's simply more of a cold,easy-going kind where instead of blowing up and making herself look like an idiot,she insults,which I think is the more intelligent thing to do. So I don't think anyone would fight. not at first anyways. I'd love ta meet some of you guys.....Nemith agrees.....
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Dan
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Post by Dan on May 16, 2005 16:34:21 GMT -5
In theory is the key word for banning people properly, unless the new forum uses some kinda ubercookie thing that borders on spyware, permantantly banning someone seems unfeasable.
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Post by Tatl & Valian on May 16, 2005 17:35:53 GMT -5
WEll, I haven't seen Ghost post yet on the new forum, so I think that's a non-issue. ^-^ And I do think she deserves to banned. Kate might have let her temper get the best of her, but she's not the one harassing members, and generally trying to provoke people.
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Dan
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Post by Dan on May 16, 2005 18:44:39 GMT -5
Shes there, under the alias of Alice (At least thats what Hannah thinks) But quite frankly , I'd be sad to lose ghost now, like hannah said, shes a member of the "family" Man, that sounds mobster , even if she is eccentric.
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Post by Spiral Sun on May 17, 2005 0:32:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel that too. She's one of the family, despite her slight off moments. We're not really as affected by her outburts of spiteful-ness because we've seen them before. It is hard though for people who arn't used to her or don't know her to find her difficult. I really have no opinion. I don't think she should be banned but I know that her poll would've made Kate feel really upset which in my eyes means she should be banned. I sit on the fence. It doesn't really matter though because it's impossible to get rid of her, she's one of the family who can't leave home. So she'll always be around.
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