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Post by J and Captiosus on Apr 28, 2005 20:35:33 GMT -5
OK, this is going to be a touchy subject to people. I know how you all get about your daemons. But how long do you expect yourselves to project a daemon? I use the term project instead of have because, well, one of the recurring things is that everyone has a daemon, whether they're aware of it or not, or if it's what we know as a daemon or not. However, giving it a form, a personality, etc, is what I call projecting a daemon. Daemians project daemons. Anyway, now that we got that out of the way, back to my original subject: how long do you expect to project a daemon? Do you think it will last forever? I see a lot of people..."grow out" of daemons, me included, and Capt used to be so real. As soon as he became real like that, everything started to unravel. In short, I don't think daemons have long "life spans" and I wanted to see if people were aware and accepted this, or if they were sensitive about it.
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Post by |3200k1 on Apr 28, 2005 21:33:53 GMT -5
My beliefs don't change much,but I can imagine that sometime I may 'grow out' of projecting him all the time. however, I am convinced that some times I will go into the meditive state and ask for advice or soemthing,so i'll always know he's there if i ever need to talk.
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Post by Sil and Veil on Apr 28, 2005 21:34:43 GMT -5
I know that I'll probably eventually grow out of him, but he'll always be my spirit guide, of sorts. He's my animal soul.
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Post by |3200k1 on Apr 28, 2005 21:38:35 GMT -5
I know that I'll probably eventually grow out of him, but he'll always be my spirit guide, of sorts. He's my animal soul. *nods* That's what I was saying.
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Post by Kiba on Apr 29, 2005 6:17:52 GMT -5
but you still can't just berid of them.
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Post by rave & phair on Apr 29, 2005 14:34:21 GMT -5
*wince* I think I have grown out of projecting him already. *string of expletives*
I mean, I've never projected Darkett all the time, not even when it was a new, exciting belief. When I do, he's still as real as before. I know from experience that I'm not a person who sticks with things for a long time.
I think in the future he'll come back occasionally, because he's special to me and I love having him around; he's my soul after all! It's just difficult for me to continuously have him around, unlike some people.
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Post by Annie on Apr 29, 2005 17:04:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much I'll project him in the future, but I know I'll talk to him forever.
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Post by Cat on Apr 29, 2005 17:30:37 GMT -5
Wow. Surprising results here ... I don't think that I could ever just stop projecting Pocket. He's become so much a part of my life that it would be like trying to avoid a friend I see every day at school. I wouldn't want to stop seeing him, or talking to him. His little quips keep me smiling throughout the day. His advice keeps me in check. I love his grin, and I love the feeling of hearing him laugh at a joke I made for once. Even his most random actions are treasured. ( Awhile ago I watched him, bemused, as he leapt up from a sitting position and raced around the room yelling: "House is on tonight! I just remembered! Wooo!" ) I want him to be with me forever. And I love that he always will be ... no one can take him away.
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Post by Okibi on Apr 29, 2005 17:43:30 GMT -5
I completely agree with Cat. Living without projecting Rookie would be like living without him... No matter what he will remain part of me, but I'm so used to speaking with my beloved companion and seeing his expressions (like those grins, laughs, and sweet smiles), that anything less wouldn't feel right. I would feel alone - as if I'd betrayed my dæmon as Lyra did Pan. I suspect that once I'm with my darling Daniel for good I will project Rook a little less, just because it's difficult to concentrate on his every move when I'm interacting with others. But throughout my adulthood I will surely continue having my thoughts turn into dialogues between Rookie and me. That's just how I think now. ^^ I love it when he rests his black coyote head on my leg, or clings to my shoulder as Japoro, chatting away. But whatever form he settles as, he will always be my Rookie, and I'll never ever "grow out" of communing with my soul.
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Post by Monkey and Bellanei on Apr 29, 2005 18:43:13 GMT -5
I'm shocked at the majority of responses here. I feel the same as Cat and Okibi. '
I did stop talking to Bell for a short time the beginning of high school (september 2004) and I don't want to repeat that. Ever.
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Post by Tyrannus et Callida on Apr 29, 2005 19:30:23 GMT -5
Ditto with Cat, Okibi, and Monkey. I just today was able to talk to her again. I never knew how much her witty sarcasm meant to me until I got it back.
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Post by Kate and Kael on Apr 29, 2005 19:36:04 GMT -5
How hypocritical. You people talk about loving your daemons. Caring about them. They're your soul. You talk about how you love their advice. And you can sit there staring at your computer and have the nerve to write that you'll "grow out" of them. Is that love? Is that affection? How can you grow out of your soul and then as pleased as pie say you "love" it? That's not love. That's kicking it to the curb like growing out of a puppy. But so much deeper. That is sick. Truly, I thought Ghost had taken the cake with my disgusto-meter, but this really does take the cake. Your daemon's life span is YOUR life span. Just because a few people have decide to throw their daemons back into the dark, it doesn't mean it's inevitable. J, you make it sound like it is. "..I wanted to see if people were aware and accepted this, or if they were sensitive about it..." As if the daemon dies like an old pet. What, you use it up, and then when it's useless to you, you toss it under the bed? Throw it out for a new toy? How can you treat your daemon like a possession? I like having one now. Belief. To me, my daemon isn't a 'belief'. We're not all studying daemonism. Everyone has a daemon. Even if they never see it, never know what it's like to be loved by theirs. You don't sign up for daemonism and then hit the books. You speak to it or not, visualize it or not, but the very idea of abandoning it, "growing out" of it..what a bunch of hypocrites. A bunch of little kids playing around with your souls, and then when you "grow up" sure, they won't matter. It's all just a game today, and yesterday's new age try-out tomorrow. What a load of bull. Kael will never stop being there for me. And I will never just "grow out" of him. Because I love MY daemon. And love is not leaving your own in the dark. Love is NOT "GROWING OUT" of someone as close to you and as loving to you as your daemon. You people should be ashamed. I don't care who disagrees with me. You can gripe at me all you want. You should be ****ing ashamed. This is disgusting. Monkey, Cat, Kibs, this is not directed at you, nor at anyone else who feels that this thread and this topic is sick enough to make your stomach twist.
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Post by Tyrannus et Callida on Apr 29, 2005 19:42:56 GMT -5
That was a little harsh. I completely agree with what you're saying, but you didn't have to... be so harsh about it. It seems like everyone is on edge now. We all need to unwind a bit.
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Post by Alexei & Kryii on Apr 29, 2005 19:48:04 GMT -5
Kryii and I have gone back and forth many times since I first met her, it sometimes is stronger and sometimes weaker. I have never loved her less-- but the connection was fuzzy, distant. This is especially powerful when I am really, really out of myself. She's not going away, but the amount of time I spend actively speaking with her changes even day to day. Sometimes, it is only at night before bed when we really talk. Others, we'll chat all day long.
The feelings never change, but the expression does. Sick? I think that, perhaps, if it was exactly the way you described it, Kate, it would be. But it isn't. The thread's title is misleading, true, but that does not make it "sick."
Hypocritical, yes, that may apply. But can you deny even when you love your brother, sister, mother, or father as much as anything in the world, sometimes you may not really talk to him or her for weeks. Do you love any less? No. It isn't a loss of this love, this connection, it is, perhaps, a growth of it.
The dæmon is here to teach us, guide us, help us to grow... what happens when we learn to do that by ourselves? Or when we decide that it is too scary, to hard, and run from it? Then our dæmon might suffer. True.
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Post by StephXZed on Apr 29, 2005 19:49:38 GMT -5
To me, the 'projecting' of a daemon is a more easy way to talk to him. I know that I will always talk to Zed, and love and care about him forever, but whether or not he will always my little black jackel-wolf may be in the gray. But I will always listen to his voice and always know him as my Zedith. Always.
Kate and Kael... that might have been a little bit harsh. Harsh... and yet, perhaps true, for me, anyway. I know that if I ever said, "Oh, I'll grow out of Zed pretty soon" I would be a hypocrite, because I love him.
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